Thinkers' Forum USA

A Site for Intellectual Empowerment and Exchange of Ideas

Thinkers' Forum USA

Science & Metaphysics

(Metaphysics has a fluid definition, but generally it is considered a branch of philosophy that deals with abstract concepts explaining fundamental nature of being and universe. The discussion on recently posted article “ Is this world real or an illusion”  is mostly metaphysical as it deals with abstract thoughts on reality of universe which is hard to prove empirically. One of the problem in proving reality of the universe is that we do not have a ” God’s eye View” of the universe as we are part of the universe and our experience of the universe may be subjective than objective. In order to have objective view, we need God’s Eye view, which is not possible. The article below is about place of metaphysics where science is unable to reach. F. Sheikh )

The Paradox We Face When We Use Science To Explain Science

Technology cannot keep pace with theoretical predictions about subatomic reality coming from physics. The same applies to our ability to observe the far reaches of the universe. Theory outstrips data and can become more extravagant with the claims it makes about the character of a reality. Theories are moreunderdetermined by empirical results than ever, but scientists are reluctant to admit that the arguments they put forward are philosophical and metaphysical. Their theories provide a framework in which they can operate, but if they are removed not only from actual observation but from what in principle can be accessible to us, our descendants, or even any possible observer in our universe, it is hard to see that they are anything other than the product of pure reason. Just because scientists use such reasoning does not make it science.
What then has to be the case for genuine science as such to be possible? This is a question from outside science and is, by definition, a philosophical—even a metaphysical—question. Those who say that science can answer all questions are themselves standing outside science to make that claim. That is why naturalism—the modern version of materialism, seeing reality as defined by what is within reach of the sciences—becomes a metaphysical theory when it strays beyond methodology to talk of what can exist. Denying metaphysics and upholding materialism must itself be a move within metaphysics. It involves standing outside the practice of science and talking of its scope. The assertion that science can explain everything can never come from within science. It is always a statement about science.

None of us can stand outside all human understanding and conceptual schemes and talk of what there is or could be.

Similarly, in philosophy the question must be pressed as to where the verificationist—who believes that a proposition is meaningful only if it can be proved true or false—stands in order to deny the possibility of metaphysics. The dilemma can sometimes be expressed by the perennial challenge as to how the verification theory thesis can itself be verified. By its own lights it appears suspiciously metaphysical in that checking it through scientific means clearly begs every question. One answer (and that given at one time by A.J. Ayer) is that the verification principle is an “axiom.” That, though, does not settle the question of why we should choose such an axiom. It seems somewhat arbitrary and leaves open the possibility that others can just choose a different starting place without fear of rational criticism. Nothing has then been solved.

Some philosophers, particularly of a pragmatist persuasion, have talked of the impossibility of a “God’s eye view.” None of us can stand outside all human understanding and conceptual schemes and talk of what there is or could be. We are all anchored where we are. This is a truism, but it can quickly result in questioning the possibility of any detached reasoning. It takes us very quickly to a philosophical relativism as a destination, according to which we are the creatures of time and place. That though does not just demolish the possibility of philosophy and metaphysics. It undermines the whole self-understanding of empirical science. The latter depends on the idea of a disinterested, objective reason that can be shared by all humans everywhere. It is above all concerned with truth, in effect the ultimate value guiding the practice of science that must be respected by all scientists. That is why falsifying or exaggerating the results of experiments strikes at the heart of science. Scientific truth is not respectful of persons or cultures, and it is certainly not dependent on any.

Science has a universal reach. A scientific discovery about the character of the universe should be one that notional scientists in far-off galaxies could share. The physical laws at least of our own universe remain constant and are intelligible anywhere in it. This gives a clue to a basic fact about science that is often taken for granted by working scientists. Science investigates an objective reality open to all and independent of mind.

http://nautil.us/issue/29/scaling/why-science-needs-metaphysics

 

Monthly Lecture Meeting Of TFUSA October 25th, 2015

You are cordially invited to the next monthly Lecture of TFUSA.

Speaker:         Babar Mustafa

          Topic: “Animation Of Matter”

Moderator:   Dr. Fayyaz Sheikh

When:

Sunday, October 25th, 2015

Duration:

Start Time:          11;00 AM

End Time:            1;00 PM

Lunch Served After Lecture

Location:

Dr. Shoeb Amin’s office

48 New Main Street

Haverstraw  NY   10927

A Ghazal By Iqbal Sheikh

آسمانوں سے مرے خوابوں کو نسبت ہے بہت
خار و خس پر  انجم  و مہ کی عنایت ہے بہت
کھینچ مت چشمِ تخیل کی طنابوں کو ابھی
شہرِحکمت  کی رسائی  میں مسافت ہے بہت
تجھ کو آزدی  ہے،پابندِ سلاسل ہیں سبھی
دست ِ قدرت  کی یہی تجھ کورعایت ہے بہت
ایک چادر ہے فلک ساری زمینوں کی جہاں
پیرپھیلانے کی ہرشےکوسہولت ہے بہت
آل اولاد وں کی منطق تیری جنت میں کہاں
نسلِ آدم کو اِسی شے کی ضرورت ہے بہت
رہ کے دُنیا میں نہ پرواہ جن کو دُنیا کی ہوئی
اُن کا اُخریٰ کا تصور اک حماقت ہے بہت
اپنی فکریں جو  بکھیری  ہیں یہ تُو نےچار سُو
دشمنوں میں یوں تری اقباؔل شہرت ہے بہت

 

Quest for Peace: A timely meditation by Prof. Ashraf

By: MIRZA IQBAL ASHRAF: mirzashraf@hotmail.com_____________________________________________

September 12, 2015

The Quest For Peace

 

ABSTRACT: In every time of our known or unknown history, societies have been struggling to maintain peace. People have always been striving to preserve peace in order to live and work harmoniously with each other. A passionate quest for permanent peace has always been a prime objective of mankind. In order to achieve this objective many religious, political, and social philosophies in different times have been presented. Many methods have been applied including a justified use of force and power by one nation or an international organization to maintain peace. In spite of all efforts through ages the objective of permanent peace is still a dream come true. With the invention of highly devastating weapons, preserving peace has become so fragile that we have come to a point where either we would all live or we all die. We now need to leave the worst behind us. It is time that with a greater resolution we have to conduct the affairs of the world in a smarter way that should leave war as a totally diminished phenomenon. … We know that peace is the practical matter of how human beings can live together harmoniously, dealing creatively and effectively with the differences, hurts, and fears that arise in their relationships. Peace is and has been as natural as life on this planet and its being there does not demand any justification. But any act, which disrupts peace, needs a reasonable justification. Today’s man has become a pathetic creature, who in the world of natural selection having been evolved as a war monger from his brutish nature, or emboldened as a best creation of intelligent design and proud to be God’s vicegerent, is trying to be god. In both cases, we need to understand that man is travelling in the wrong direction. He needs to realize that he has brought humanity to a juncture where peace would come by an insight of love for all or by a blunder of an unsightly conflict or catastrophe of a magnitude that would leave him with no other choice than peace. ― Mirza Ashraf

 

Ever since human beings have appeared on this planet, in all ages of their time they seem to have been living with others of their own kind in families, groups, and societies. Wherever we look into a society, we find people living together involving likeness as well as difference. Without the sense of likeness, there could be no mutual recognition of “belonging together” and therefore, no society. This may have occurred through accidental circumstances; either people happened to be in the same place at the same time sharing common interests, or may have been forced to merge into already existing group. We find groups of people in common as well as fluctuating relationships with each other, some of whom are like and some unlike themselves. This reflects diversity within the society in which people exist with their natural differences such as those on which the family rests with differences of belief, aptitude, capacity, and interest. Identities, based on commonalities and differences amongst individuals or groups of people have made the society complex, leading from peace to conflict and war. Basically their social structure is based on, primarily by likeness helping them to make life livable together peacefully, and secondly by differences leading them to conflict and war with each. Their quest for peace, the primary factor in their lives, has always been a cherished dream. But peace, violated by their differences, leading to conflict and war is still made out of the control achieved through force. Mankind is perennially caught in a routine to maintain peace through war; peace involving eventually in conflict and war again―a cycle that needs to be changed by the appeal of love for all based on “Live and let Live” rather than building peace by force.

To read full 8 page article go to: https://independent.academia.edu/MirzaAshraf